Extra strength for your UPS
(Uninterrupted Power Supply)
Installed in 1996 - still running at 2018
(I just changed the pellet stove UPS battery July 2018, installed them in 2007
July, 2018 I also bought a used Tripp Lite OMNI 1500 LCDT to replace this one. All of $45)
I need to replace my battery -
Can my UPS do "More Power"
Some UPSs may have space for a larger battery.
(Update 7-2018) My pellet stove UPS died in the spring, red "replace battery" came on. So I checked the contacts and stuff, nope. Checked voltage, each gave 12v and 27v together. I hooked one of the batteries to a 12v UPS. It starts, but does not last 5 sec when on battery. So I looked close and saw the dates punched out on the battery... 2007 ! ! Over 10 years old... guess they need replacing. $87 each for 100Ah marine batteries. Hooked them up and the old 1996 UPS still kicks on. I am going to have to replace that UPS, 22 year running plus it was a throw away from a former school so add another 3-4 years. Back in 1996 the batteries cost as much as the UPS.
(Update: 10-2011 Halloween storm North East.. my UPS ran for 15 hours ! ! See "how long will my UPS run"
(Update Aug. 2010) - I replaced the UPS on my computer with a
"smart" UPS. It will shut down my PC if the power goes out longer then the
UPS can handle it. As many web sites state, the PC UPS will not run off my
main UPS. So the experts that say the "sine wave" is not the same coming
out of a UPS is correct. You can't extend one UPS by plugging into a
My second UPS is still on my hubs, routers and other PC items. I also bought a Netgear NAS and a UPS that can control it. So if the power goes out the NAS will shut down automatically after 20 min or so. Only certain UPS units can work with this NAS and I picked up a refurb unit. The NAS shut down incorrectly a week after purchase and so did the USP. I found out my son's cat had walked on the UPS and hit the power button. So now the UPS is sideways ! The cats also have turned on/off the Christmas tree lights as the remote switch is stepped on my the cat. Glad they only stay for a few days! )
(Update Oct. 2009) - A "winter storm" hit and lots of snow covered the trees with leaves. Not good. Many branches went down and power was out, in some areas of NJ, for 4 days. My town got hit and power was out until 7 PM. When it was restored, my Jacuzzi had a blown 30 amp fuse. That's all that happened to that. An X-10 device fried and a power supply to a computer component that was not in a surge protector went. Nothing on my UPSs had a problem.)
(Update - Dec. 2008)... still going... had a long power outage (7 hours) and one held up as there was little drain on it, but my PC one drained. I don't have it connected to the PC as it has a serial connector. So it was running all that time. Some day I have to replace that UPS with a newer USB connector and software so it will shut down after a few hour of being on the UPS.)
(Update - June 4, 2007 The power went out at 2:30 am. It finally went back on at 4 am. The USP on my PC with the two sealed car batteries had no problem. The monitor was turned off but the PC, the router and hub were all powered by the UPS. It is a small unit (APC 600LS) and I don't have lights to show how much power was left when the power came back on unlike my larger unit. The PC was still working in the morning so it didn't restart over the 1 1/2 hours power outage. The other larger UPS was not running anything (Pellet stove or new LCD TV) so there was no drain.(Update - as of Sept. '06) I still have the same setup. I went through 3 sets of batteries (one set due to my neglect to fill the battery with water) and one connection was corroded. I resoldered a new connection. Those old UPSs are still working. Power has gone out a few times and hundreds of time they kick in when the pool, jacuzzi and dryer are running together. I still use wet cell marine batteries. I changed one set to sealed standard car batteries. It's been a couple of years with those.)
I am not waiting in fear of Y2K or end of the world. I just
don't want the TV, computer or my electric powered phone to become useless
for an hour when the power goes out. I was just tired of resetting
the VCR channels and clock again! I also have a Pellet Stove in my
house plugged into this UPS.
|If the power goes out on a pellet stove, even for 30 seconds, the Pellet Stove quits until you restart it. Plus smoke will start coming out of a pellet stove as the fan to blow the smoke outside quits when the power goes out. This has happened to me twice. I live in a quiet part of NW New Jersey. Problem is people seem to love to hit telephone poles with their 4X4s, either that or the damn deer we keep hitting are cutting power lines to get back at us! Our power goes out at least twice a year. Lighting storms can kill the power for 1-10 min. Also my '60 built home has a 100 amp power box with many stretched circuits. The refrigerator kicks on and my living room light dims for a half second. Our area is also hot for short backouts. A UPS, with my electronic equipment plugged into it, may save them from getting toasted by line surges. I lost a Jacuzzi 40 amp fuse during a freak snow storm in Oct. '09 (Jacuzzi still worked after replacing the fuse) as well as an AC converter and X10 box got fried.|
My solution was to purchase a real big UPS. The price, oh well a bit high for me. So I looked around and happen to see a UPS being thrown out were I work. I found out why they were in the "junk heap". After the batteries die on these units, the replacement batteries can cost almost as much as a new unit. Usually the batteries last 4-5 years, then they die and need to be replaced. As special as a UPS is, so are these batteries, plus they are not really "user replacement" items. The only other use for these types of batteries are home alarm systems and the battery operated emergency lights required by businesses should the power die. (update '06 : more and more kiddy toys use these dry cell batteries and more home are buying these. That drops the price of the UPS and replacement batteries over the past 6 years) Hence, the batteries are a high price specialty item. Even on WEB pages, the smaller of the 12 volt lead cell (gel cell) batteries cost $40 each. Most UPSs need 24 volts that are converted to 120 volts. So that's $80 for the two batteries plus shipping. And LEAD ACID batteries contain LEAD and they cost $$ to ship due to their weight. You can purchase a small but useful UPS for a little over $80. The boxes now say "user replaceable batteries". Ever get a replacement battery for one of the many 9-13 volt cordless drills? Might as well wait for a sale and get a new drill and battery, the price is only a few dollars more. Oh yes, I have replaced those $40 cordless battery packs by soldering single $1.25 units together. Just solder the right number into place and you have a working drill. The replacement batteries for those drills never did fit the original case, so I usually improvised. So I'm a "Tim the Tool Man" person that gave his battery powered tools "More Power". Hey, they worked, and lasted longer! So this is the Mother of All UPS power supplies !
Back on track. Since DC voltage is DC voltage, only amperage is in the way of "More Power". You can't give 13 volts to a 9 volt motor. It will burn out in a short time. Same DC voltage to same DC voltage is fine. Smaller UPS batteries can only give out small amps. The larger batteries I used to replace the original rechargeable batteries had more amps to provide longer power, these are "wet cell" batteries. Something I will warn you about later. Most UPS have small, 3X6X10" lead acid sealed batteries.
|They give out about 7 amp hour and give that out at a constant rate, then die quickly. Just like a cell phone. The cell phone batteries will seem to last a long time up to that last 1/3 of the battery level. Then they die in 5 min. After finding this tossed out UPS I took it home I did some looking inside. I found the lead acid batteries. Oh lord, they are heavy. I mean heavy, don't ever try to carry a decent size unit any distance. This unit had two batteries that were 12 volts each. Another UPS I checked out had four larger 6 volt batteries. Wired a certain way, the four 6 volts still gave 24 volts to the circuit contacts. I asked my computer friends a simple question, what if I replace the two tiny 12 volt batteries with two 12 volt car batteries. None of my friends had heard of this, so off I went to build my "More Power" UPS.|
As you can see from my other pages, www.butkus.org, I do everything. Wiring, construction, auto repair. So if you have no trust in yourself, or former experience, heed this warning. This is how I did this. I am not saying you are capable of this or won't short and explode these powerful lead acid batteries. Just like car batteries they contain ACID, that can blind you or damage your skin and surroundings. Charging lead acid batteries produce hydrogen gas, very explosive! Do this to any battery under warranty and bye-bye warranty!
|The initial idea.
I found a APC (American Power Conversion Corp) UPS model 900, about a foot and a half long by six inches high in the garbage heap. It 's supposed to handle 700 watts. That's seven 100 watt light bulbs for, I would guess, 10 min. Less drain (watts), longer time! These UPS are for computers. These units are to keep the computer running until they can shut down automatically should the power fail. That is done through software, formerly only server software but W2K or XP can be setup to auto shut down if the UPS has a USB or serial cable connected to the computer and the program is loaded. Hopefully the power would be restored before a system shutdown. This is great for the typical 2 to 15 second storm blackout or power loss when a large appliance is turn on in a standard home. The length of time to shutdown depends on how many hundreds of dollars you want to spend for a big UPS to run for hours rather then 10-15 minutes these small units provide.
This APC unit has a two 5 LED lights. One
showing the power drain of the item you have plugged into the unit and
turned on. The other LCD, the power left in the batteries.
First I needed replacement batteries. I checked out Walmart, auto stores and BJ 's Warehouse. BJ 's had these massive 12 volt deep cell batteries for $49.00 each (1999 pricing). A "deep cell" is a battery used for current drain for a long time without damaging the battery. Normal car batteries get damaged every time you discharge them to almost nothing. They are made for the car cranking the starter when it's 0 degrees outside, high current drain for short times. A deep cell is for boating lights and troller motors, long time drain, then full recharge. So I purchased two of these "deep cells" as they were the cheapest I found and had the longest "amp hour" time. Amp Hour is simple, how long the battery can be drained at a certain "amp" in an hour. The batteries I took out had a 7 amp hour, these new ones should have a bit more "power".
DIFFERENT UPS SYSTEMS HAVE DIFFERENT BATTERY SETUPS.. THIS IS A 24V SETUP.. TWO BIG BATTERIES WIRED FOR 24V.
After the UPS was opened, I saw the two large connections from the battery to the circuit board. I used normal 12 gauge home wiring to hook up the batteries and make the contact from the basement to the UPS right above it. Don't even think of running this 20 or 30 feet. I do not know if that will work or what could happen. DC voltage is different from AC, short runs are good. These batteries must be used and stored with the terminals pointed UP only. The pictures show the wiring connecting the one "Negative" terminals to the "Positive" of another. I purchased the round connectors at Radio Shack and a powerful 50 amp fuse connector and a 50 amp fuse for this large unit. EVERY battery is fused right at the connector. Shorting one of these will melt the wire almost instantly. The female battery connectors to the male UPS connectors came from the same store but had to be shaved a bit less wider with a file to fit correctly inside. In my UPS the white wire is used as a positive and black as ground. However you want to hook the colors up, make sure you duplicate and mark the Positive and Negative wires! As always, never hook up the battery wires up until everything is finished. Any auto store would have the large round connectors as these types of batteries have the thumb screw connectors for boat use as well as the typical clamp type connectors.
|You need to solder the connector to the wires, not just crimp them on. Rust and corrosion at these joints will stop the unit from working correctly or cause a fire as they overheat. Remember these are 12 gauge wires. Those tiny 10 watt soldering irons will not solder the ends correctly. The wire and connectors must get hot enough to melt the solder, not just having the tip of the soldering iron melting the solder. A quick test, if you can turn the eyelet on a long wire one full turn, and the wire turns, the solder job should be good. A cold solder join will break at the connection when that type of twist is place on the connector. The solder connection should also be smooth, not bumpy. I soldered the 50 amp fuse link to the 12 gauge wire going directly above it through a hold drilled in the floor, right next to a wall. I did drill down from the wall's edge and make sure the drill would not hit any live 120 volt house wiring directly beneath it.|
|It's a big double hole, so caulk it up afterwards. At the UPS end I again soldered the connectors for a tight fit. I used the house wiring "white" wire as positive and the "black" as negative. Touching 24 volts with your bare hands can't hurt you. Short 24 volts with that kind of amperage behind it and if you do not fuse that circuit, the wire will spark and melt on you! I'm talking about melting wire on your skin or in your eyes! Fuse it once or even twice, between the two 12 volt batteries. I chose a 50 amp fuse for this big UPS, a second smaller UPS I improved has a 30 amp fuse. This will keep the UPS from drawing too much power from the Deep Cell batteries or a dead short. Many internal circuits of the UPS will prevent overdraw of power at the AC outlets or overcharging of these batteries. That's if the UPS is working correctly. If you are getting a used or junk UPS, make sure it's not due to a bad UPS circuit. Find one that just needs batteries. A UPS that over or undercharges batteries will not help you. Overcharged batteries will create the explosive hydrogen gas and dry them out in a week.|
I first attached the wires to their respective connections inside the UPS (again match + and -), then in the basement I connected just the positive. Then I tested the system by quickly touching the negative wire to the negative contact. A tiny, tiny spark may be heard as it powers the UPS for a second. Again the 50 amp fuse would quickly melt if wires were shorted. I can only assume the UPS would not function if you reversed the white battery positive wire to the red positive wire in the UPS and the black battery to the black UPS wire. Don't know though, you might fry the internal circuit system if they are reversed! Again they are not "user replaceable" batteries and the UPS may not be setup for stupid "end user" errors.
These oversized batteries will allow a longer RUN TIME. You cannot get a small UPS rated at 120 watts and plug in three seventy five watt bulbs. The transformers are what determines how many watts a specific UPS can handle. Don't go by the name. A RG-250 may only handle a peek 250w for a few seconds, but 175 watts of steady current. These specification are on each UPS.
So the system is simple. Two deep cell batteries, one positive connected to one negative with a 50 amp fuse in the middle. (THIS IS FOR A 24 VOLT UPS) At the other two ends are two large copper eyelet soldered to 12 gauge (the thick stuff, 14 gauge is thinner) house wiring with a fuse between the connector and the 12 gauge wiring. (this shot and the above photo shows one of the 2 original batteries on top of the replacements marine batteries) The wire, about 10 feet long, is in my basement. The 12 gauge wire goes into a hole I drilled into the back or side of the UPS were it does not contact any metal or circuit parts. Inside the UPS I added a small "wire clamp" used in house wiring boxes to prevent the 12 gauge wire from being pulled out of the UPS. One clamp can be added to the outside to prevent the wire from being pushed in by accident. I also electrical taped the UPS connection ends to make sure those contacts don't touch each other or internal parts. I drilled though a plastic part of the UPS case so the 12 gauge wire will not be cut through by any metal. If you have to drill through metal, use a round rubber "short protector" found in auto stores to prevent the metal frame from cutting and shorting the 12 gauge wiring.
I have a vented crawl space and directly below each UPS are the batteries. I did purchase "boat battery" covers for my initial UPS. No small children are in my family anymore so I had no fear of kids playing with this setup. Again, short any of the positive and negatives wires or provide them with a short, heat and hot liquid metal will attack you!
Summer time 1998, sitting one Saturday evening watching the TV. This babe is 31" set, biggest I could fit in my wife's favorite TV cabinet. I just had to take off the retracting doors! The kitchen light goes out. Humm, TV still going. UPS gives a beep. A commercial starts and I get up to check the kitchen light. I glance outside and see darkness, no lights across the street. After 15 minutes the TV show ends and I go outside to see my neighbors talking. Yep, power out again. They notice my flickering TV and ask what's up. I tell them about my UPS and batteries. Four and one half hours later I'm still watching TV and the power is finally restored. My UPS which has those "power lights" shows that out of 5 battery reserve lights only 2 were out in 4 1/2 hours. My drain, which is the 31" TV, VCR and stereo (which was not on) shows only 1 light out of 5 for power drain. So this 31" TV is only using 1/5 of the possible power drain. I can only assume I could go 8 hours of TV watching before I start to worry. Not bad for a $100 or so investment. I don't have to reset my VCR or TV every time the lights blink for two seconds.
I had a smaller, used, UPS that ran a small 150 watt fluorescent light, computer (not on at that time) and electric powered phone. That light ran for 3 hours before the old UPS batteries kicked it off. I then transferred the living room light to the TV UPS for the last hour and a half during that first power outage with my "beefed up" UPS. A year later the batteries finally died on my smaller used UPS. After checking the connections on the older UPS downstairs and finding no corrosion I decided to get the same batteries and setup for this smaller UPS. The bigger batteries cost about the same as the original batteries with shipping. It should now be able run my computer, modem and phone during times of power outages for many many hours longer then the original setup. I will test this setup soon, just to see how long. (2-13-2000, power failure.) My large UPS fails after 30 seconds. The next day I find those batteries had run dry. The smaller UPS ran the TV for 45 min. then the pellet stove for 9 hours - [10pm Sunday till 7:10am] It was still going Monday morning when the power went on)
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